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Blog: Cytology Proficiency Testing
Created by admin on Sun 20 of Feb, 2005 19:35 UTC
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Description: Online Blog created for discussion on Cytology PT.
By admin
on Thu 10 of May, 2007 12:04 UTC
I am amazed that there has been little commentary about the cytology PT over the past year. Perhaps this is most likely due to the fact that CMS "...will not fail cytology PT, have deficiencies cited, or have sanctions imposed against their CLIA certificate provided they:
- Enroll all affected individuals in a Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS)approved testing program for the CY 2007 testing cycle, and
- Ensure that all such individuals are tested in a timely manner within 2007, in accordance with the regulatory protocol.
The regulatory protocol under 42 CFR 493.855 identifies the extent to which additional testing, education, or limitations must be put in place with regard to individuals who do not pass the test initially."
This is a good thing
In addition, I personally feel that the anxiety has somewhat passed, allowing people to perform better with less anxiety, and in addition, there are multiple players now in the "testing" market, which allows for our choice of "pill".
I have now taken both MIME (now ASCP) and CAP versions of the test, and found no significant differences between the two. I had some issues with MIME as well as CAP, but not anything that wasn't easily fixable by contacting the vendors.
The most challenging aspects are the documentation and educational efforts needed in order to comply with the intent of the regulation, which is nothing new. I think that is the general trend right now, and again, although not a bad thing in general, difficult to consistently apply in our current state...doing more with less and in the same amount of time.
It will be interesting to follow the resulting effects of the Cytology PT Act of 2007, to see how this will affect our existing testing format.
I would like to hear feedback from others...perhaps because I get lonely...but perhaps, so others can share their experiences and viewpoints. In addition, I expect that we in the US may be viewed differently than we may think, as our colleagues abroad have long been under the watchful eye of the government, and in many respects, under the auspices of a structured national quality assurance program. Perhaps we have much to learn...remember...it isn't all about us
By admin
on Sat 07 of Jan, 2006 15:30 UTC
Having survived the initial MIME Cytology PT test in September, and first retest in October, we were very much relieved to be done with our PT testing until the following fall. And, dancing with glee as we signed up for the CAP version, we sat back, satisfied that we had survived the initial round of CMS mandated cytology PT. Yesterday, we received notification from CAP that our cytology PT test was scheduled for February 2006!!!
LOL....well, I am still considering what we will do. I suspect that I will recommend we go ahead and take in order to get it over with, as well as to evaluate the CAP version. Then going forward, we will be able to choose which program to utilize with actual experience with both.
I am curious if anyone received notice of testing even earlier than Feb? Post here....I would welcome anyone's experience with the CAP Cytology PT test.
By hao-chien
on Tue 22 of Nov, 2005 14:08 UTC
hi all! im a very new user looking for some guidance to good use of this site to increase my cytological mindedness!! i want to know how to access to the PTs fast, since i really want to test out whats more than that all in the books.
cheers..
By admin
on Fri 02 of Sep, 2005 12:46 UTC
Our lab participated in the MIME Cytology PT Exam last week. Both pathologists and cytotechnologists participated in a combination of online kodachrome exams and mock glass slide exams prior to the actual test in preparation. Although anxious, everyone felt relatively prepared for the test.
I was the first to take the exam of our pathologists as I probably felt the most comfortable. Well, what a surprise! I received a set of previously screened slides, and come to find out, from one of our most senior cytotechnologists with excellent skills. After looking at the first slide, where we disagreed, Tech-HSIL, PATH-NEG, I decided to move on to the next slide. Wow, Tech-HSIL, PATH-NEG. Ok, so I thought, well, let's look at the next slide... Tech-HSIL PATH-LSIL. I am thinking...ok, my goose is cooked. One of us is having a very bad day.
What I realized was that this test had nothing at all to do with the actual content of the slide, and whether one has correctly identified the area in question, but had more to do with trying to figure out what the Test Providers were looking for. I came to the conclusion that my cytotechnologist was doing what they felt they had to do in order to pass the exam, just in case they guessed wrong, even though, they clearly saw the abnormality (or something that perhaps MIME might consider an abnormality). In the end, I went with what I would do in daily practice, deciding that if that wasn't what they were looking for on the Exam, I would challenge the question. If I wasn't going to pass, I was going to do so on principle. So either I got them all right, and we both passed, or I failed and the cytotechnologist passed. We will see....most of the other pathologists experienced something very similar.
IMHO, this test is flawed, and does not accurately assess an individuals ability to correctly identify an abnormality on the slide. It seems to be testing the performance of the slide in a testing arena. And, the cytotechnologist is graded in a fashion that considers the evaluation a "screening" interpretation, where in contrast, the pathologist is graded in a fashion that considers the evaluation a "diagnostic" interpretation (ie. an HSIL incorrectly called LSIL is a 5 point deduction, whereas for a cytotechnologist, there is no point deduction). Ok, so, I am confused....is the PAP test a "screening" test, or a "diagnostic" test?
And finally, a couple more things. Firstly, the logistics of this entire process is yet to be fully recognized, either by the labs OR by CMS. DOCUMENT EVERYTHING. Did you know that you also have to have a letter signed by the Medical Director and the individual who is NOT doing GYN screening? And that CMS/MIME have to be notified of this? And I am assuming CAP? Secondly, I am extremely irritated and perplexed that a poorly designed 10 slide exam where I can miss only one question, can prevent my ability to examine PAP smears, when I am a Board-certified cytopathologist with many years of experience. So, a government mandated 10 slide test can OVERRIDE an American Specialty Board exam. WOW.....what next??? Lastly, I do not know yet whether I passed or not....and really, the point is moot. What is important is that Congress moves to suspend this testing for re-evaluation. I am happy that CAP received their approval, but overall, the testing needs to be suspended and its process and current need reviewed.
By admin
on Wed 17 of Aug, 2005 22:28 UTC
I have posted a general information test on the CYTOPATHNET Campus to assist with Cytology PT preparation and familiarity. I am hoping to get a mock kodachrome slide set up soon. Go to http://campus.cytopathnet.org and choose the Cytology PT Exam course.
By Cytonana
on Tue 21 of Jun, 2005 22:48 UTC
Cytology is in a sad state.
I think this is just more thing... for us to keep up with while at the same time trying to screen 60 to 80 slides per day.
I think that interpretations skills are measured by the federal registery exam.
What good is Proficiency testing when techs are told that they must screen 60 to 80 slides per day just to keep the Cytology lab viable. I think that the CLIA workload limits have seriously backfired.
How can daily screening proficiency be measured if the test allows one to take more than twice the amount of time he/she is allowed to take during a normal work day for each slide?
To measure screening & interpretation skills under normal working conditions, I think the individual "maximum workload limit" set for each tech should be put to the test. (ie. If it is 12.5 slides / hour, then the tech should be able to show proficiency at that rate). If this were the case, managers would not be so inclined to insist on unreasonable min/max workload limits for the techs.
I feel that many techs rather than screening in a manner that will insure that abnormal cells are detected, are forced to use thier microscope stage as a self propelled assembly line figuring out just how fast the knobs must be turned to insure 60, 80 or 100 per day quotas. I've never used an automated screener, but I shudder at the thought of having to crank out 150 to 200 cases per day.
Sincerely,
Cytonana
By admin
on Sun 12 of Jun, 2005 14:15 UTC
For the past 16 years, the CAP checklist question regarding Cytology PT was usually addressed by participation in either CAP PAP, ASCP Star, or MIME CytoQuest? programs. Technically, however, as we are all aware, these programs did not represent "true" cytology proficiency testing as defined by CMS. As the result of CMS finally approving MIME for Cytology PT, there now exists a "true" cytology PT program. The prior programs, CAP PAP, ASCP Star and MIME CytoQuest? represent "educational programs". I am providing excerpts from the most recent CAP Lab General checklists http://www.cap.org/apps/docs/laboratory_accreditation/checklists/laboratory_general_march2005.pdf which address these areas as they may NOW also relate to Cytology PT testing. The first question should NOT apply to cytology PT as this IS a required PT enrollment. It will be interesting to see how this is interpreted by inspectors.
GEN.10500 Phase II N/A YES NO
For tests for which CAP does not require enrollment in PT, does the laboratory at least semiannually 1) participate in external PT, or 2) exercise an alternative performance assessment system for determining the reliability of analytic testing?
NOTE: Appropriate alternative performance assessment procedures may include: split sample analysis with reference or other laboratories, split samples with an established in-house method, assayed material, regional pools, clinical validation by chart review, or other suitable and documented means. It is the responsibility of the laboratory director to define such alternative performance
assessment procedures, as applicable, in accordance with good clinical and scientific laboratory practice. As an example, the biannual CAP CED educational challenge in esoteric coagulation testing offers an opportunity to compare test results with other participants. Participation in ungraded/educational proficiency testing programs also satisfies this checklist question.
COMMENTARY:
N/A
GEN.10000 Phase II N/A YES NO
Are the laboratory’s procedures for proficiency testing written and sufficient for the extent and complexity of testing done in the laboratory?
NOTE: CAP-accredited laboratories must participate in proficiency testing (PT) (when available through CAP or a CAP-approved alternate provider) for all patient tests designated by CAP. The current list of analytes for which CAP requires PT is available on the CAP website http://www.cap.org/apps/docs/laboratory_accreditation/ptgraded.html or by phoning 800-323-4040 (or 847-832-7000), option 1.
The laboratory must have written procedures for the proper handling, analysis, review and reporting of proficiency testing materials. There must be written procedure(s) for investigation and correction of problems that are identified by unacceptable proficiency testing results. The laboratory should also have procedure(s) for investigation of results that, although acceptable, show bias or trends suggesting a problem. The CAP office audits PT participation to assure that accredited laboratories participate in PT as appropriate.
College of American Pathologists Revised: 03/30/2005
LABORATORY GENERAL (Web File) Page 7 of 7
COMMENTARY:
N/A
GEN.11484 Phase II N/A YES NO
Are records of all proficiency testing since the last on-site inspection complete?
NOTE: Records must include worksheets, instrument tapes, reporting forms, evaluation reports, participant summaries, and documentation of follow-up, as applicable.
COMMENTARY:
N/A
GEN.11742 Phase II N/A YES NO
Is there written evidence that all problems identified by proficiency testing and alternative performance assessment have been recognized and corrected?
COMMENTARY:
N/A
GEN.12258 Phase II N/A YES NO
Is there a policy that prohibits interlaboratory communication about proficiency testing samples before submission of data to the proficiency testing provider?
NOTE: Under CLIA-88 regulations, there is a strict prohibition against communications about proficiency testing samples before submission of data to the proficiency testing provider. The laboratory director is responsible for enforcing this prohibition.
COMMENTARY:
College of American Pathologists Revised: 03/30/2005
LABORATORY GENERAL (Web File) Page 9 of 9
N/A
REFERENCES: 1) Department of Health and Human Services, Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services. Clinical laboratory improvement amendments of 1988; final rule. Fed Register. 1992(Feb 28):7146 42CFR493.801(b)(3); 2) Bierig JR. Comparing PT results can put a lab’s CLIA license on the line. Northfield, IL: College of American Pathologists CAP Today. 2002;16(2):84-87.
GEN.13032 Phase II N/A YES NO
For tests performed within the laboratory, is there a policy that prohibits referral of proficiency testing specimens to another laboratory?
NOTE: Under CLIA-88 regulations, there is a strict prohibition against referring proficiency testing specimens to another laboratory. It is the responsibility of the laboratory director to ensure that this prohibition is enforced.
COMMENTARY:
N/A
REFERENCE: Department of Health and Human Services, Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services. Clinical laboratory improvement amendments of 1988; final rule. Fed Register. 1992(Feb 28): 42CFR493.801(b)(4).
By admin
on Sun 27 of Mar, 2005 15:01 UTC
April 24, 1998
From The Populist Cytologist
The HHS summary report of the March 6, 1996 CLIA Advisory Committee meeting reveals that Mary E. Lunz, PhD "recommended that computer-based images be used in cytology PT." Despite a lack of any scientific data showing that proficiency testing by any method correlates with on-the-job performance, Dr. Lunz, speaking as a spokesperson for the American Society of Clinical Pathologists, claimed "that CBPT (computer-based PT) could provide a broader range of challenges than glass slide PT, could adequately test individual competency, should occur in a controlled environment, and concluded that testing under these conditions would approximate normal working skills/responsibilities." While acknowledging that "logistics of administering a computerized test are quite complex, she proposed as an alternative using existing testing centers across the country."
If HHS takes Dr. Lunz’s advice, cytologists can expect to travel annually to regional testing centers to take a computer-based test (for a fee) in order to qualify under CLIA 88 to read pap smears for another year. In this scenario, gyn cytologists will become the first medical group to undergo annual defacto regulatory recertification testing every year for the rest of their careers!
Submitted Responses
From: Dugald A. Taylor, M.D., Pathologist, Wichita, Kansas
Comments: As impressive as the computer image based proficiency testing may be in assessing interpretation of abnormal cells, it does not test AT ALL proficiency in screening, i.e. finding the cells to interpret. Screening is most of what our screeners do; classification is no less important, but you can't interpret something you can't find.
From: Anonymous, cytopathologist
Comments: If you really want to know how important proficiency testing is, look at Maryland, the only state with a HHS-approved gyn cytology PT program. In Maryland we have the two lead authors of the Bethesda System, that great innovation. The first author, Dianne Solomon has never taken Maryland PT because it doesn't apply to the federal government! The second Bethesda author, Bob Kurman, has never taken Maryland PT, because he has never actually signed out a pap smear since he has been at Johns Hopkins in Maryland! Remember, this is the head of the Bethesda "criteria committee" which is supposed to be teaching the rest of the approved criteria for cytodiagnosis! Are you beginning to get the picture?
From: Anonymous, cytopathologist
Comments: If the program is well designed and the slide material is valid then only the very poor performers will fail the test. As they should. As time goes on it seems that there are more people out for the dollar and not for the patient. I think I can pass any fair proficiency test. I have confidence in my ability. I would love to hear those who are worried about the validity of Proficiency testing tell the real reason that they are afraid of it. They in fact afraid that they are not competent. If they are not, they should not be doing the exam.
From: Anonymous, cytotechnologist
Comments: What if they created a test and no one came? Who is going to screen all those Pap smears? I think they should also do some PT on pathologists reading the biopsies too. Look at the "Wisconcin Event" That was not just paps that were missed, but the BIOPSIES!
From: Margaret Stevenson, cytotechnologist
Comments: During the annual business meeting of the South Carolina Society of Cytology this past May, many of the members heard for the first time about the ASCP's proposal regarding computer based proficiency testing. Several members voiced opposition to this method of testing citing such reasons as:
1. The lack of this mode of testing's capability to test locator skills,
2. The lack of similarity to actual screening situations in the workplace.
3. Lack of individual experience with computers except for basic LIS functions.
Everyone present at the meeting agreed that this proposal amounts to regulatory annual recertification for cytologists whereas no annual individual testing is required of any other group of laboratory professionals.We find this requirement objectionable and discriminatory and have voted to go on record as being opposed to this form of testing. Our president has sent letters to the appropriate professional societies stating the SCSC's position on this matter.
From: Nancy Samples, cytotechnologist
Comments: I am a cytotechnologist with 20+ years of experience in screening pap smears and in all areas of supervision and administration of a cytology laboratory. I am registering my strong opposition to the position being taken by the advisors to CLIAC and HCFA concerning proficiency testing in cytology, namely computer-based proficiency testing. In my view, there is no conceivable application of computer-based testing that would approximate the normal working environment or responsibilities of any cytotechnologist. To base an evaluation of one's skills, be it locator or diagnostic, on a test in an unrealistic working environment and using tools that are completely foreign to the pap smear screening process would be grossly unfair. When it is being suggested that results of testing under these conditions would be used to determine the professional future of an individual cytotechnologist, the proposition becomes ludicrous.
From: Anonymous, cytotechnologist
Comments: This is not cost effective and is generally a ridiculous idea. None of the technologists I now would consider this idea as worthy, not just for economic reasons only.
By admin
on Sat 12 of Mar, 2005 02:40 UTC
For anyone reviewing their certification status in order to address cytology PT issues, please refer the information below from the CMS website.
CMS has made available the Clinical Laboratory Improvement Amendments of 1988 (CLIA) Application for Certification, Form CMS-116. This form should be mailed to the address of the local State Agency for the State in which your laboratory resides. (The form is in an Adobe Acrobat file (form116.pdf) and requires the Adobe Acrobat reader software to view. The file contains the following-- Form CMS-116 (PDF 33K), Instructions for Completion, Guidelines for Counting Tests for CLIA and Tests Commonly Performed and Their Corresponding Laboratory Specialties/Subspecialties, http://www.cms.hhs.gov/forms/cms116.pdf .
CLIA requires all entities that perform even one test (NOTE: emphasis mine, ie. hospital-based pathologists who maybe review 3-4 paps per year), including waived test on ... "materials derived from the human body for the purpose of providing information for the diagnosis, prevention or treatment of any disease or impairment of, or the assessment of the health of, human beings" to meet certain Federal requirements. If an entity performs tests for these purposes, it is considered under CLIA to be a laboratory and must register with the CLIA program.
The CLIA application collects information about a laboratory's operation, which is necessary to determine the type of certificate to be issued and the fees to be assessed.
NOTE: Your completed application should be forwarded to the address of the local State Agency for the State in which your laboratory resides. If you have any questions regarding the completion of the Form CMS-116, contact the appropriate State Agency as noted above. You should also contact this State agency for additional forms that may be necessary to complete the registration process or for any additional questions. For example, the State of California has additional licensure requirements and thus California applicants should be sure to contact their local State Agency --(213) 833-6000. Be sure to make contact with your State Agency to ensure that you have all the necessary information that is required for application.
By admin
on Fri 11 of Mar, 2005 12:05 UTC
The Transcript and Audiotapes from the CAP Conference on CMS Cytology PT testing have been posted. They are available at the following links:
- Listen to streaming audio of February 24 CAP audioconference on cytology PT
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